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Encourages voters to contact Camp's office

By Bill Froehlich
Sunday, November 15, 2009 at 10:33 p.m.

Read more: Local, National, Politics, Health, Dave Camp, Health Care Bill, Health Care Reform

The health care reform bill could be up for discussion in the the U.S. Senate as early as Monday. But the Democratic National Committee isn't done talking about how members of the House voted.

Under the name "Organizing for America - a Project of the Democratic National Committee" - the group fired off mass emails - asking supporters to call their Congressman and voice their disagreement with those that voted against the bill - even though it already passed last weekend.

Here in northern Michigan - an email obtained by 7 &4 News this weekend criticizes Republican Dave Camp, and his vote against reform.  Here's an excerpt of the email:

"A little over a year ago, the congressional district you live in voted to send Barack Obama to the White House and Rep. Dave Camp to Congress. The message was clear: Rep. Camp's constituents want change, and expect Rep. Camp to work with President Obama and reach across the aisle to help deliver it. Last weekend, Rep. Camp was called upon to do just that, in the historic vote on health reform. The vote offered a clear choice: Support a bill which draws upon ideas from both parties to guarantee Michigan's 4th district residents secure, affordable health coverage without adding a cent to the deficit, or stand with the insurance companies and right wing pundits to put politics above doing the right thing and stand in the way of history. Unfortunately, Rep. Camp made the wrong choice. "

We talked with Congressman Camp earlier in the week about his view on the Health Care Reform bill. Here's what he had to say during our interview:

"I think now it's important to communicate your views with the Senate. Our Senators are going to be voting on the bill and the President said he wants it by the end of the month.... The Senate will have an amendment process on the floor, the Senate will have many amendments. There will will be an opportunity to try to improve this, but I think the structure they've drafted is wrong for the country and wrong for Health Care reform. So I don't know how you can improve this, frankly."

"I think the bill sets up a very bureaucratic command and control, getting in the way of health care between an individual and their doctor. It raises taxes significantly and that tax increase will hurt every American because we won't see economic recovery as soon as we otherwise would have."

We also contacted Democrat Bart Stupak. While home in the district last week he was unable to meet with us for comment on the vote. However, you can click on this link to read about Stupak's address to a Health Care conference this past week in Marquette. http://www.upnorthlive.com/news/story.aspx?id=376414

What do you think about the Health Care vote? And what do you think about the email from the DNC after the vote has been cast? Leave your comments here...

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Posted by Timmy Jones, TC - Monday, November 23, 2009 at 8:41 a.m.

Ummm.... the Afghanistan and Iraqi wars where never declared by congress. It was the president who sent them over seas.

They are undeclared wars!!

come on think a little

Posted by Mike Smith, TC - Friday, November 20, 2009 at 7:13 a.m.

Ben, Ben, Ben... am I the only one that see's YOU sitting on your high horse, drinking what ever coolaid you picked, making irrelevent comparisons today? I think NOT! If nobama just wants ins for the uninsured, then why isn't that what there doing? HUH? Instead we have a 10 TRILLION dollar socialist take over of the whole health care system! Why? Nobody will answer that. Voting on a bills that hasn't been read or finished! Why is that Ben? You seem to want to pick on conservative mistakes, but blindly accept the certain demise of the best health care system in the WORLD! We don't need to wreck the whole system to fix certain issues, that effect a SMALL MINORITY! Your hated Republicans have at LEAST six ideas or bills, that would fix the problem, but the ARROGANT, out of control, dumocrats won't here of it, because it isn't what the anointed one wants. It wouldn't give them control over more than 1/6th of our economy, and tens of millions of people, for decades to come. They can't stand the idea of not having that power and control. What an absolute CROCK! That should make EVERYONE in this country (at least those here legally) sick to their stomach. Bush made alot of mistakes, some he even admitted. Most people agree that starting a war in Iraq was a bad decision, but it was based on the same info that, a dumocratically controlled, Congress used to vote on the war, TWICE! Huh? But no matter what you think of Bush, one thing is FOR SURE, HE WAS NEVER A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE! PERIOD!! Ben you need to stop drinking your mind altering coolaid, and think clearly for awhile. I believe you will eventually see things for what they are. We DO NOT need a 10 TRILLION doller socialist takeover of the health care system, to fix the problems. PERIOD!

So will de-regulation be the answer?

Posted by Ben Stolin, Northport - Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 7:11 p.m.

So all who think that this capitalist idealism will work for the Health care system is also blind. We De-Regulated Electricity in California and look what happened. ENRON! They paid the power companies to shut down for a day. Am I the only who remembers de-regulation of electric companies? Am I the only who remember de-regulation on roids that led to brown outs of how many millions of Americans? Am I the only one who remembers where our Reps gave 3 quarters of a trillion dollars to the banks? And now we all think Obama is the fascist just cause he wants health care for the Un-insured. So quit your whole high and mighty "I'm a fiscal conservative" cause I hate both parties, and I hate when you say your a fiscal conservative. I hate your tea parties, get over it you lost and you're party isn't fiscally conservative. What I do like about the Democrats is that at-least they brought the budget to where the government was making money. The so called fiscal conservatives did what? Dragged us in to a two front war which won't be won and yet here we stand still losing money in the whole thing.

!!!

Posted by Jim S., Northern Michigan - Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 5:50 p.m.

Throw this H.C. bill in the garbage!!! I do not want it at all!! If something goes wrong with me than I will pay for it. If something goes wrong with you than you pay for it. I will not pay for anyone's heath care but who I choose!!

This guy that wrote the letter that thinks government run H.C. will not add to the deficit has his head in the dirt. Who ever told him that is a liar! And this thing about "draws upon ideas from both parties being a good thing??" What a joke!!! There are no two parties!! They are both the same!! They both run this country into the ground!!! There is nothing new, there is no change, only more out of control spending. The dollar is going under for crying out loud!! You think we will spend our way out of it?? You think making more corrupt laws and regulations will make the problem go away? Man.. get over yourself!

You think giving out free candy to children will be organized, well supplied and efficient?? Oh by the way, everyone has to chip in to pay for all the candy so special people can give it out. Halloween is everyday, get them in, get them out as fast as you can. Who ever does it that fastest will get a bones. Woops, missed one, woops gave that one the wrong candy, woops ran out of candy, oh no they keep coming!! Quick turn off the lights!!

Anyone that thinks government run H.C. can work is living in a dream world.

The government lies, lies all the time and lies even when the truth can serve it well.

It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from it's government.

Wait What!

Posted by Ben Stolin, Northport - Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 3:35 p.m.

So all you right wing fiscal conservatives think Dave is on your side. He sits there and in one big swoop swindles 1 trillion dollars gives it to the banks and turns around and says no one else should have a cent. You people don't make one bit of sense. And for the guy saying our president is a fascist might have to actually take a look at our last one. He took away our right to privacy and made us go to war, and made it possible for the president in another swoop to make him the De-facto Leader with no elections. So take a good look at what the republicans have done and tell me again why.

Why not same health care as Dave and Bart

Posted by richard wiles, petoskey - Monday, November 16, 2009 at 1:11 p.m.

Hey there guys, why can't WE all have the same kind of health coverage you have? YOU have the "Cadillac" of health care coverage in the USA --we all just want at least some "Kia" type health care coverage for our friends and families!!!

Chicago "Thug" Politics...

Posted by Sharon N., T.C. - Monday, November 16, 2009 at 10:26 a.m.

Wow, everytime I read something coming out of this White House lately, it sounds more and more like Chicago "Thug" politics. This White House & their Dem buddies are bound and determined to get this Healthcare Bill passed and have a Government Option in it whether the American people want it or not!!!
Thank God for strong Republicans like Dave Camp and Pete Hoekstra that are holding strong against this brutal battle with this Thug mentality White House. Now, we the people, must stay strong and stay engaged in this battle right along side our Representatives.
We can defeat this disaster but we must stay strong!!!
This bill is NOT for the American people, it's so the Dems can continue their "big government" efforts to control every aspect of our lives and take more and more of our freedoms away from us.
Thanks so much Rep. Camp for your service and your dedication to the American people.

Dave Camp

Posted by t galoi, tc - Monday, November 16, 2009 at 9:33 a.m.

I have met Dave Camp and he works for all of us. He voted the way THE MAJORITY of his constituents think. The ploy by the democrats is in poor taste and will not work.

Responsible vote

Posted by J McDonald, Interlochen - Monday, November 16, 2009 at 9:32 a.m.

Way to go Dave !! I could sit here and demand free health care however anyone who thinks that the largest entitlement of our lifetime will either "lower the deficit " or "cost a trillion over ten years " needs to rethink this and stop doing fuzzy math . We are eleven trillion in debt already and the Democrats are giving rep Camp a hard time about not piling on more ? he did the responsible thing ,now bring on torte reform and open health care and prescription drugs up to competition.

Thank You Dave Camp

Posted by Trudy B, Dryden - Monday, November 16, 2009 at 7:56 a.m.

Thank you Dave Camp for voting against this insane Healthcare Bill. It is a bad bill. I ask this, Stabenow said that 50 million people go to bed without health care. Do our jails hold that many people because if someone can't afford health care they are going to jail according to the latest bill. This reminds me of the days when people were thrown in jail for not paying their debts. Did this help them earn money, no it pushed their families into deeper poverty. This part shows the phoniness and stupidity of those writing this bill. What I want in healthcare reform is a free choice of providers for everyone but for those who cannot afford health care I would like to see them be able to receive it free. The cost of this could be paid for by close monitoring for fraudulent claims, cutting out all government pork, instituting tort reform and sending illegals back home. Taking this action would put a lot of money back into the system for healthcare use.

Democratic e-mail criticizes Congressman Camp

Posted by Alex Gregg, Alpena - Monday, November 16, 2009 at 7:37 a.m.

This is SUPPOSED to be Health Care for
A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N-S
but our so-called "representatives" keep inserting illegal aliens into it, which means (1)It is for anyone that can stroll across the wide open borders. (2)These jerks are not working for AMERICA. (3)How long before they just extend benefits to the whole planet? (4)We need to clean house, vote all the incumbents out!
If they can't keep ILLEGALS from strolling across the borders, just how good do you think they are at keeping TERRORISTS from strolling in and KILLING Americans? They have absolutely NO idea how many TERRORISTS are hidden in among the millions of ILLEGALS.

Now There is One Smart Vote

Posted by Charles Foust, Suttons Bay - Monday, November 16, 2009 at 7:07 a.m.

I am glad he voted against this huge power grab by the Fascist White House we now have! Most the reg. folk do not want this monstrousity and none of the folks that voted for it even read it. The Government has NO buiseness meddling with a private choice of a US taxpayer! Oh ya, you argue. What about mandetory car insurance? Wel we still have free choice, to drive or not. With this caca we have no choice,if you are born, you MUST pay or be fined or even jailed. WHAT COUNTRY IS THIS?

Response to Dave Camp

Posted by Leo Sensabaugh, Farwell, MI - Monday, November 16, 2009 at 7:07 a.m.

Mr. Camp is being very Responsible! Health Care Bill
has many hidden problems and challenges that are going to be costly to every American! 85% of all Americans have health insurance now and are happy! Why tamper with them?

Stick to your beliefs, Mr. Camp! We respect you and you are doing the right thing! We support you 100% and this is NOT the change America voted for.

Thanks Congressman Camp for your NO Vote on Health Care!

Health Care

Posted by Tom Sowulewski, Saginaw Michigan - Monday, November 16, 2009 at 6:34 a.m.

Really...Thanks Dave Camp for your Vote. I am against the bill in it's present form. TAX TAX TAX At Least Dave Camps office will answer your letters or emails even if you disagree with his views

Thanks

Health care

Posted by earl Jones, Prudenville - Monday, November 16, 2009 at 4:46 a.m.

I wish to thank Congressman Camp for voting against a bill that would increase taxes to pay for and not help the average person. How many members of congress that voted in favor of that bill have actally read it. Probably none of them. THANK YOU MR. CAMP.

Dave Camp is A Pawn of the Insurance Industry...

Posted by Ben Stolin, Northport - Sunday, November 15, 2009 at 11:47 p.m.

He so claims to be a conservative but when you look at his record he voted for the BAILOUT of the Banking industry which makes me scratch my head. How can you even start to claim to be a fiscal conservative when you voted to bail out the banking industry with 700 billion dollars in one fiscal year... So what the Health Care plan cost 1 trillion over ten years.. Our Representative voted to Give 3/4ths in just 1 year! HELLO WAKE UP VOTERS!! This is our rep!!!

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