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Trooper: Taser gun use uncommon, but used when necessary

By Greg Angel
Tuesday, November 17, 2009 at 6:16 p.m.

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PETOSKEY -- 50,000 volts.

That's the charge that can be emitted on the standard taser gun carried by most Michigan State Police troopers.

Monday, troopers in Emmet and Otsego counties had to utilize their taser guns to subdue two men in two different altercations after both men resisted arrest and began fighting with officers.

"The intention is to effect an arrest without permanently hurting someone," said Trooper Ron Nadeau with the Michigan State Police post in Petoskey. Nadeau is also one of the taser gun trainers at the post.

The taser guns eject two metal prongs which attach to a person's body and transmits the electricity. The effects of which cause a person's muscles to momentarily freeze up.

"I would say most people here haven't used their tasers on anyone so I would say it's not common," Nadeau said. "We use it when we have to."

Troopers go through an initial three hour training course before using the taser guns. Nadeau says the taser guns are a tool used as a last resort.

"We first try talking to people, we talk people out of any sort of altercation," Nadeau said. "If they fight with us or we think its going to go worse, we'd rather tase them and be done with it than to have to fight with them and to use deadly force at some point."

Nadeau says officers face many uncertainties on every call they respond to, so if or when to use their taser gun varies by situation. Nadeau says while there may be risks, he says being able to use a taser gun is better than being resorted to using a firearm.

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A quick lesson

Posted by Allen johnson, Cheboygan - Tuesday, January 05, 2010 at 7:54 p.m.

A taser does emit 50,000 volts of electricity, its the amps that are the concern. Tasers use less amperage then a defibulator (that btw docters use without a medical history) and also a heart needs 300 amps same as a pace maker to effect it. Tasers only transfer .0021 mili amps FAR less then what it would take to effect a heart or pacemaker.. RESEARCH BEFORE POSTING

No Way

Posted by myron curtiss, Bellaire - Tuesday, January 05, 2010 at 1:30 a.m.

Tasers sometimes kill, one person is one to many.
Police are our servants, because of the training they get, some law enforcement treat the citizens like crap as it is,if you don't jump when they say jump they loss it, if they have a taser they are more likely to use it unnecessarily. they are just as human as anyone else, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
no Law enforcement personnel should carry a taser on duty. we see the abuse by police in other states already, we don't need it hear. Why would we introduce something other states are trying to ban.

Grow up!!!

Posted by Regular Joe, Northern Michigan - Wednesday, November 18, 2009 at 4:13 p.m.

If you don't want to be tased then don't resist or fight the cops. Do what the cop tells you to do. When the cop tells you to put your hands behind your back because you are under arrest then do so. It is not a request that's open for debate, it is a lawful order. Arguing the point with the cop is resisting. If you want to argue save it for the Judge, that's why we have courtrooms.

Better yet don't get so drunk in public that you end up acting like a fool and they have to call the cops on you. It seems our society is full of 40 year old adolescents who refuse to grow up,take responsibility for their actions, and "party" every night. Then again if you don't work every night is the weekend.

Wallman...get real.

Posted by Northern Police Officer, Traverse City - Wednesday, November 18, 2009 at 1:51 p.m.

You probably complained about the switch to semi-autos from wheel guns, power windows, pepper spray, and MDTs. "If you can't get him with 6 shots, why should you have 12 in the gun!" I bet I can count on one hand how many times you have been in a knock down drag out fight. It is a good thing dinosaurs like you have retired. Perhaps you have been out of the game for too long but in my life the MOST important thing is for me to get home to my family at night... The stupidity of your post from somebody who CLAIMS to have been an LEO is mind numbing.

Wallman...get real.

Posted by Northern Police Officer, Traverse City - Wednesday, November 18, 2009 at 1:41 p.m.

You probably complained about the switch to semi-autos from wheel guns, power windows, pepper spray, and MDTs. "If you can't get him with 6 shots, why should you have 12 in the gun!" I bet I can count on one hand how many times you have been in a knock down drag out fight. It is a good thing dinosaurs like you have retired. Perhaps you have been out of the game for too long but in my life the MOST important thing is for me to get home to my family at night... The stupidity of your post from somebody who CLAIMS to have been an LEO is mind numbing.

another police lie

Posted by david oliver, michigan - Wednesday, November 18, 2009 at 9:51 a.m.

why dont you call some docters and see how many agree that electrocuting someone with 50000 volts isnt deadly force

HOW NOT TO GET TAZED....

Posted by Andy Dunn, Cheboygan - Wednesday, November 18, 2009 at 7:31 a.m.

Listen to the Officer. Wow, simple.

Tasers

Posted by Douglas Wallman, Roscommon - Wednesday, November 18, 2009 at 6:52 a.m.

I made this comment yesterday but as a retired police officer I am appalled at the use of tasers. If a police officer can not effect an arrest without using a taser then maybe they are in the wrong line of work.

Tasering for fun in Chippewa County

Posted by Len McDougall, Chippewa County - Wednesday, November 18, 2009 at 5:13 a.m.

If even half of the arrestees who claim to have been tasered by police officers in Chippewa County are telling the truth, then tasers are being used needlessly. Begin with Lt. Allen Allen.

Taser

Posted by John Doe, N. MI - Wednesday, November 18, 2009 at 12:32 a.m.

With all the Taser incidents lately and the negative responses, why doesn't someone from 7&4 voluntarily get tased so the public can see what really happens when someone gets hit? I am sure it would be huge for ratings and might clear up some misconceptions people have regarding tasers.

Why the anguish?

Posted by Ziggy D, Gaylord - Tuesday, November 17, 2009 at 11:14 p.m.

If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. What's with all the angst about those "poor" criminals who get tased? They aren't the victims and obviously haven't learned the lesson that there are consequences to actions.

MSP

Posted by Ditkas Mustache, KINGSLEY - Tuesday, November 17, 2009 at 7:43 p.m.

To tase or not to tase, that is the question.

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