How can i say it? well i probablly know a little more thaan the American public does on the matter at hand, i have been to Iraq, I was one of the people fighting the WAR when it was an actual declaration, I seen ,dealtwith, and in some cases transported Iraqis that were arrested on Terrorist charges. many of whom we simply puled from a house with women and children in it, many were just men hiding not wanting to fight the US.Scared to be seen on the street by their own Government and then forced into a war they didnt want to fight.this is how i can say this, they are torturing prisoners in Cuba (were)
I have never seen anything written in the Bill of rights, or the constitution saying you had to be an American citizen.My sons fight as I do Because we believe in the pricipels of our forefathers, not a current presidents or former presidents beliefs,priorities etc.

did you ever hear the term "all men are created equal"? there are no clauses, amendments etc that say well if your an American citizen.
My whole statement was on the basis these people deserve at the very least a trial and charges filed on them.they are not even classified as "prisoners of war" as they were at first. Why? because they would have to have been released already under terms of Geneva convention and US law.
I a not for turning these people loose without trail either,some are without doubt "BAD" but some even if its only one are being held and are totally innocent
I know of one person whom was arrested because he saved one of our young mens life, pulled him from line of fire of approaching enemy, the young man was wounded seriously, the man gave him first aid, got him to cover and was protecting him when some of our guys found them of course they thought he was an enemy combatant,his arrest was normal and expected, what was not normal and expected was spending a Year in a prison till the young man actually went searching for the man that saved his life and got him eventually released...Is there a man in Cuba right now that that may have happened to? maybe a soldier he tried to help didnt make it to spare him the long term imprisonment, THIS is of concern to me and why i feel as I do. its really easy to sit back here in the states and listen to media paint a picture of things that are not even remotely close to what is fact.we were,and are very wanted and needed in Iraq, its a select few whom dont want us there. think of them as organized crime organizations.

Anyways ONE person is too many to hold that is innocent, without a trial we will never know and to me thats a crime against humanity as well as a failure to follow what we preach as a Nation.
call me, or think of me as you will, BUT i have been there a few times,And My sons are there,Many of my friends are still there, and some left their life there, they fought for the American way of life which is the right to life LIBERTY and pursuit of happiness, when liberty is threatened a speedy and fair trial is a as put in our constitution a God given Right, not a politically given right,

want another example look how bad we scream and cry when a few reporters sneak into another country get caught, jailed etc even when they go to a trial and are sentenced we scream and kick till they are released back to us.now ask yourself how you would feel if say some Iranians came here, snatched a few hundred people took them to a place and held them without any trial.thats what we did basically...

I read your comment on the prisoners in Cuba and I feel that it must be hard to have a son in the war and not be able to help him. I only can say one thing about what you had to say and that is we are at war and during the world war II alot of people were tortured and kill in camps since you mentioned it, BUT we did not torture or kill anyone in our camps. You say that these people deserve the protection of the Bill of Rights, BUT the Bill of Rights are for Americans not illegal people. One more point about your comments and that is the red cross is looking over all these prisoners in Cuba and they have the best of everything except their freedom and that may come soon because of the new President and his way of dealing with them. I don't understand how an American can stand up for the same people who have been out there killing and trying to kill our sons and daughters in a war. I just can not understand that. Dennis Bliss

I am gonna jump in on something right now, people are calling the detainees in cuba terrorists, some may be, some are not without a trial they are presumed innocent.
do you understand what that means, we as US citizens are pushing all our beliefs onto other countries, but yet use loopholes to not follow what we preach, keeping them in Cuba, citizens calling them terrorists yet if they were arrested for anything they would expect a "speedy trial"
some of those people have been in that prison since 2001, thats 8 years of their life,if most are 32 thats 1/4th of their lives, now i am not in any way shape or form for turning loose a terrorist BUT I believe in our constitution, and our bill of rights, i have fought for it, and will die for it as well ,But it applies to every person in the US the base in Cuba is considered US property, and would be considered an act of war for cuban military to step foot on,or a criminal offense for any of us.
besides that anyone under the control of the US deserves to be treated with dignity as anyone else is.we are not a bunch of animals out for "revenge"
what we are doing to those prisoners makes us no better than the dictator we threw out.I have a son fighting in Iraq as I type this,he feels as I do as well,as soon as we stoop to a level other countries,governments,and dictators do then they have won and we are the losers.We are better than that and need to prove it as well.
if they do nto have evidence on these people yet its criminal to be holding them this long.the ones they have evidence on kill them for all i care.But I happen to know many of the original prisoners taken to Cuba were merely people in wrong spot at wrong time during a war operation....
think back to world war 2 and what we did to Japanese Americans here in the states,Many of whom went to war and gave their lives so we can enjoy being the best country in the world with HIGHER standards than any other country in the world.
why do we need to lower standards? did they beat us and cause us to do this? hardly, its merely fear causing everyone to want to lower standards and our way of life..
also this is really not a time to throw out political parties, republicans ruined this economy,democrats right now are going for the juglar to finish it off.both parties are to blame as well as millions of voters whom only vote based on party lines and really have no clue what a candidate is really like..
everyone thinks BO was such a great candidate but yet hardly anyone checked his senate voting past tons of "present" votes he couldnt make a decision in the senate and now they expect a decision vote as a president? come on! the other candidate was no better..except our young men and women wouldnt be walking around Afghanistan right now with a big bullseye on their chests from stalled ammo shipments and lack of troop reinforcements, But then we could look into if the taliban has maybe a muslim on the inside? that would explain delaying shipments of munitions to defend themselves and also troops to reinforce.......

Well the white house is telling the press that no shots for the H1N1 flu is at the camp or is on the way to the camp for the detainees in Cuba. I would like to know how well Miss Michelle Donhoefer is sleeping at night. If she sleeps good at night she can thank the men and women of the Military for that ability. The fact that they are keeping you safe and so are the police in your town. The people who are in prisons are not the people that you would want to be in your house and the people in Cuba are not the people you want as friends. It is time for the people to realize that there are actually people out in the world that take lives and anything else they can take. You should go to some places other then the United States like Iraq or Iran and see for your selve then make your statements about morality.Dennis Bliss

hell in a handbasket? morality? omg! what is wrong with you people. i believe the article was about innoculations for detainees. bottom line of morality: do unto others as you would have done unto you". maybe there would be a dissipation of this terroristic mentality if there was a lessening of hatred spewing from our (your) guts. one person whines about killing them without complete knowledge of true intentions of individuals within a race of people, some of whom have been "detained" because of their color (just ask some mid-eastern christians). another person whines about not having enough for themselves while giving accolades to a past republican president who ultimately is responsible for the mess the united states of america is in. unbelievable that so many condemn without facts and seeing the past for what it was. i think sometimes people who make comments full of hatred are, in their hearts, terrorists themselves.

People are complaining about health care for the ones that dion't have any. Well here is the solution to it give them a cell and they will have the best health care in the world. The prisoners that are locked up have better health care then the people that are watching them. What is wrong with that picture and why do they deserve all that attention? This world is going to hell in a hand basket and the people are letting it go that way. It wold be nice to see the people wake up and take back the country and put morals back into it not let it go down this path. Dennis L. Bliss, McMillan Michigan

We are holding them in cages. We are responsible for their health. We have not held "quick and speedy trials" for them.
You want to talk "terrorists"? I'll give you Terrorists: If Guantanamo and Torture are so effective, why are we NOT torturing our FINANCIAL TERRORIST Bankers and Politicians to get some TRUTH out of them? After all, the Al Queda Terrorists destroyed maybe $8 Billion, and murdered about 3,000 Americans. The World Trade Buildings cost the insurance companies $7,000,000,000 ... and they had to pay TWICE because Shylock Silverstein got it counted as TWO separate acts.
"Our" BANKERS have destroyed TRILLIONS of dollars and MURDERED many 10,000s of Americans from lost medical insurance, stolen retirements, increased child abuse, suicidal despair, heart attacks............... The government has the gall to state that $50,000,000,000 is "EXPECTED to be DEFRAUDED" from the RECOVERY funds. They should go find the FIRST "defrauder" and PUBLICLY punish him, and any others later. ......If these "esteemed" Politicians know HOW to fix the economy ........... then they knew how it was SUPPOSED to be running as it was LOOTED ........ The American People have lost $14,000,000,000,000+ ........ root these FINANCIAL TERRORISTS out of their cubicles and lofty offices, and send THEM to Guantanamo

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." --
Now, please show me the Geographic, Racial, "boundaries" to these words.

All this hope and change is really working out well isn't it!!!!! Where the Vaccine????? Were this a Republican in charge, everyone would be calling for his head, guess it is ok to bungle a flu problem??
Glad we got this POTUS, voting present is looking really good now, instead of doing something.

What is wrong with this country? The detainees kill our people and get rewarded by giving them the H1N1 vaccine before our children and pregnant women! Come on leaders get your head out of your ass's and start running our country like you're suppose too.What are you thinking! This is a different subject matter but it pertains to the above(kinda)....last night I watched 60 min. and they had a mob leader from China that needed a liver transplant. They let him into our country because he made a deal with the FBI to name his enemy co-mobsters so he could get a liver transplant.....and guess what? He and 3 of his mob leaders were moved to the top of the list. They got their transplants while other people(who live here) got moved down to 4th and 5th places etc. You cannot tell me money doesn't talk in this country because these a-holes gave the hospital one million dollars as a donation to seal the deal! Shame, shame ,shame on the hospital who let our own people down and shame, shame, shame on the army personnel who give those detainees our shortage of flu shots. This country is going to hell and we can't do a damn thing about it because we can't control the idiot's that allow this to happen! Sad isn't it?

what you do not relize is everyone whom has gotten the vaccine already and the ones in the future getting it are all being used as test subjects, this vaccine has never been tested on humans and only had one viable test ( where most test subjects lived) on animals.
its very common for Our gobvernment to test vaccines on the general population i was myself one of those test subjects when i was a child they decided to try a new rubella (sp) vaccine, my Dr knew it was a test and so did the Government however my parents were not made aware of it and even had to pay for the vaccine, then years later when they decided it wasnt a good one had to repay for me to get the good vaccine to stay in school, to me thats fraud but nothing can be done vaccine makers are immune to prosecution they can literally kill hundreds of thousands of people using vaccines as the death method knowingly and are not prosecutable for that action. look up the laws, immune from any and all liability whether undeliberate or deliberate. now if you choose to TRUST those vaccines to give to your children thats your right as a test subject to the US medical profession, however my children have much more value to me.. this whole school closing thing right now is a sham most schools are seeing very little absenteeism, there are very few confirmed cases of flu anywhere in the state, what they are doing is having parents keep children home for "flu like symtoms" which includes runny nose cough which are the majjority of the kids missing school at this time fever and barfing ok ill buy those but the others i know of 14 whom stayed home because their allergys were bugging them and schools wouldnt let them come to school, but they have to report to the health dept that those children were out due to flu like symptoms even though of the 14 9 were dr confirmed allergies... still say we are naysayers??? you are buying into the hype they are bringing to the public a couple weeks ahead of a massive vaccine delivery, kind of like advertising a new ceareal coming to stores everywhere or a movie comng next month, they want long lines to get this vaccine,
dont trust me ask the Drs whom originally claimed how safe this vaccine was till their state mandated they themselves had to take it, then all hell erupted with a suit filed in a federal court ( which they won) based on how unsafe and untested this vaccine is.
also if you believe the drug makers warnings alone it tells you noone under 16 yrs of age,pregnant, wome of child bearing ages or edlerly should have this vaccine! thats not a guide that is a direct WARNING from the maker of the vaccine.
if you choose to ignore that its like ignoring that drinking and driving are bad....

That is the most absurd thing I have heard of, putting the welfare of terrorists above the welfare of our young children and pregnant women.

Priority of the H1N1 vacine should be given women, children and high risk catagories, Prisoners do not even fall in to the class of priority recipients for the vacine that have been established by the CDC.

It seems to me that if all the personnel who are handling the detainees are vaccinated, and the detainees are kept in isolation from the general population(which surely they are), there is minimal (if any) likelihood that the detainees will get sick with the H1N1. So why would our government waste the vaccine?

I'm so appalled at the government wanting to share
the H1N1 innoc. with detainees at Gitmo. For heaven
sake!!! WHere is the common sense. #1 our pregnant women
and children need to take priority. #2 those people
are not even in the "at risk" age group. #3 What's
the chances of them even getting exposed!?!?!?!?
There in a lock up facility on an island. Again,
where is the common sense in this issue? And as far
as using prisoners as test subjects. Hello!!!! Don't
ya think it's just a little late? Since people
are already in line and thousands have already
received the vaccination?

This leaves me speechless!?!? It is nearly as upsetting as our welfare-for-billionaires program! Congress needs to get into the real world and realize who they are supposed to represent. That includes you Dave Camp!!

Michelle all I have to say is let them die. Why do we need to give them medical treatment. Those injections should be given to the american people. Period!!!!! They came here to harm us, why take care of them. An eye for an eye!!

with the multitude of problems we, as human beings face, should this be such a problem? to those who believe this is a costly (no, you can't have it, it's mine, mine i tell you) endeavor, please try to remember the resulting cost if a detainee should get the H1N1 flu. would it be okay to let that person just die without receiving medical attention? i believe any thinking person would realize the expense to "cure" an infected detainee would outweigh the expense of an innoculation. i also do believe there will be enough vaccine available for those of us who want it, although the amount of people against the vaccine is ridiculous "ooh, the government is trying to kill us" mentality. the old saying of "you're damned if you do and damned if you don't" certainly seems to apply to this situation as so many fault-finders come out of the woodwork to moan and groan again. give me a break!!

When you invent a new medication,vaccine etc you are supposed to test it on more than 3 batches of animals especially when the first 2 batches had significant die offs,so basically this vaccine has had one semi successful test to not kill lab animals, so they need to test on humans this is generally done on prisoners ( hence detainees), military and our dumbest populations whom assume everything is just safe and all peachy because the Government comes out and says so, PEOPLE wak up there is a warning notice in each vile of this vaccine to not give to pregnant women, children, and elderly because and this is important because it has not been properly tested and they have no clue to what the long term short term effects will be..
whats more is our great Government has passed laws in the past to protect the manufacturers of vaccines so even if they knew it would hurt you you cannot sue them for anything they have total immunity from prosecution. do you really want to be a test animal for the drug companies???that make our law makers rich with huge kickbacks? how much in kick backs does stupak make to bring this public with limited facts as to how this all works? he knows exactly how the "test" system works and that prisoners and military personel are always test subjects for anything new, its been this way for 100 years, he must not be making enough in kickbacks to bring up a small few facts to get people "buzzing" so his pockets can get lined better
by the way have any of you bothered to search and see how many folks have died after receiving the vaccine???or how many they predict will? or even if they assume this vaccine will work?
or maybe even ask yourself why a group of Drs came out in support of the vaccine and how everyone in their state should get the vaccine until the state tried to make it madatory that they themselves also had to get the vaccine, then it was a federal court suit to stop that as they deemed it unsafe to give to themselves and their families..they were all for making the big bucks injecting,killing,and maiming others until it was their butts also in the cross hairs of this deadly vaccine

Why should this come as a surprise to anyone!
I mean The government gives out billions of dollars to companys who miss use it then file bankruptcy!
They give out billions of dollars in tax payers money to companys who do not even report back to them on how they used it. While the rest of us can barely pay for food and gas to survive. They give big credit card companies billions of dollars in bailout money to get them out of debt at the same time the credit card compaines are robbing everyone with the extra charges in interest and late fees instead of helping out the people who need help! After they got there slice of the pie they just keep taking more and more. And you think its a shock that inmates get there flu shots before are small children do ( the inocent ones are last again )It is the new american way and it makes me sick its almost embarrising to be an american these days!